My wife liked playing dues and I enjoyed rising to the ocassion
Sorry L lee The serious point I'd like to make is that not all JW's considered it a duty like those dickheads in Crooklin
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The "Marital Due"
by Lady Lee ini wasn't sure whether to put this in scandals or beliefs and practices.
it could easily go in either.. this topic has been discussed plenty of times.
it seems to me that this is a much bigger problem in the jws than most people realize.
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Who here has just let the JW stuff go?. I NEED HELP GUYS!!!!!!!.................
by oompa in....i am so frikkin obsessed about the jw lies and my newfound truths about them, and it is prob driving me crazy or causing depression.....if i wake up in the middle of the night, i never get back to sleep as my mind starts racing about jw crap and how it affects my marriage, and then how can i make this marriage work with her such a hardcore dub....i told my wife i now realize i am an abusive husband.....i must stop talking to her about the real truth!!
!..........it is killing her inside and we have had soooo many bad discussions that turn into arguments......on top of that she says she is now closer to jah and the org than at any other time in her life, that now that she has no positive direction from me, she relies totally on jehovah and prays to him more than ever..... we talked about separation, and that i was going to lose her over our religious differences........i feel so sorry for what i have put her through, and i know that if i can not really shut up with my ohsohelpful comments of truths about this truth she will leave me due to "spiritual endangerment".......and she said she is damm close to that happening.....i told her i knew it to and would so hate to lose her due to our religious differences.
at my recent shepherding call, they said to try and stop focusing on the negatives i have found in jw, and focus on the good things...and that is not a bad idea even if i never go back to meetings....there are good things about dubs....the efforts at ending racism and at least for me, some really good lifelong friends.......even their hope for the future was pretty good to me, even though it is a bunch of crap and i no longer believe the bible is gods word or inspired.....it does have some good suggestions for a happy life and ideas as to how to treat others........but so do just about every holy book of other faiths........ i had plans to start going to some meetings with my wife, but today, after a sleepless night i told her i just dont think i can do it, and just as she strongly believes it is the truth, i do not, and that i think the guys on the gb are not led by holy spirit cause if she will read the proclaimers book, she will see we have never gotten a single bible inerpretation of prophecy correct.......so she says "so what is there?
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Luo bou to
Your being rational Oompa with a woman controlled by fear.
I lost my wife due to what the psykes call cognative disonanse. From her personal experience living with me she knew that I was not an evil man yet the WT said I was, no leeway: you leave them you leave Jehovah you are evil. No one can live with 2 such conflicting thoughts for very long. She needs to feel secure with you and not threatened.
Empathy: Say things like you understand how she feels tune into her feelings reassure her that you will not try to undermine her faith Find things to say like you admire her determination to stick with it: that she works so hard etc The time may come when she starts to question the WT herself then again it may not. If it does and she trusts you. When she brings up some issue where she thinks the WT is wrong tread very lightly Say something like. "Oh is that right I wondered about that myself then leave it". Don't think you have an opening to hit her with everything you know. Let her be the one to take these steps. Let her ask the questions.
I'll tell you a story about me the rational man. When my son was born I visited my wife in hospital and there were flowers everwhere everyone bought her flowers. So I thought she doesn't need anymore flowers so I never boughr any. Afterwards she would often bring it up and I would reply but you didn't need any flowers Untill one day 2 years later when she was visiting a sister in another city I sent her flowers through Interflora with a note saying something like Thanks darling for giving me a lovely son I heard later that she and her friend burst out crying and said what a wonderfull husband I was: She had got her flowers. Yeh I was rational and just plane stupid.
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How did you feel about attending another church?
by digderidoo inthis question is for those who have attended another church since leaving the jw's.. i have considered attending a local church, firstly out of curiosity and secondly because i do enjoy discussing the bible with people and learning new thoughts on scripture.. the only thing that stops me though is crossing that line.
i guess it was a bit like when i first posted here, it took me ages to pluck up the courage and now what was the big deal?.
did anyone else have this feeling before attending another church, that feeling of crossing the line of no return.
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Luo bou to
While reading the experiences of those that posted here I noticed that they were for the most part positive and enjoyable unlike what we were led to expect by the WT.
I'd like to point out another WT lie The truth is not about doctrine. It's not a body of doctrine .Jesus said he was the truth. Peter did not say what religion' but whom shall we go away to, you Jesus, have sayings of eternal life. As christians say " its all about Jesus" On this point christian are united regardless of their doctrinal beliefs.
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Left the WT but why the loss of your faith in God?
by Luo bou to insure the wt deceived you with its claim to be god's channel but why for so many is there a subsequent loss of faith in god ?
it puzzles me and makes me wonder why they were jw's in the first place..
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Luo bou to
Thank you for all the interesting responses to my topic
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Osama Bin Laden is Not a Wanted Man
by sammielee24 inthere is a 2008 documentary out with investigative reporting done on 9/11.
apparently when asked why bin laden's name is not on the list of people charged with the incident - the response has been 'not enough evidence to link him to the attacks'.
couple this with susan lindauer and her information (that she got locked in prison for trying to reveal) and there are still too many questions that remain unaswered.
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Not a wanted man
Years ago the fruitless hunt for Osama Bin Laden was the source of many jokes. I could not understnd why with all the resources available they could not find him Maybe the reason is he was not wanted in the first place. Makes sense
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Left the WT but why the loss of your faith in God?
by Luo bou to insure the wt deceived you with its claim to be god's channel but why for so many is there a subsequent loss of faith in god ?
it puzzles me and makes me wonder why they were jw's in the first place..
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Luo bou to
Love your work Gary For my part faith in God and faith in the WT were not one and the same.
PS Thanks for the offer re the oceanfront property in Arizona but No thanks I'm not a JW anymore.
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Left the WT but why the loss of your faith in God?
by Luo bou to insure the wt deceived you with its claim to be god's channel but why for so many is there a subsequent loss of faith in god ?
it puzzles me and makes me wonder why they were jw's in the first place..
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Luo bou to
Sure the WT deceived you with its claim to be God's channel but why for so many is there a subsequent loss of faith in God ? It puzzles me and makes me wonder why they were JW's in the first place.
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How long does reinstatement take?!? Question for a elder or someone thats been in this situation
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Almighty said N-kiki, you've come to ask a question like this on the biggest anti-jws/ apostate web site there is on the net,
you truly are a nut case of sorts? sad case?
Almighty No one is talking to her in JW land. On this site we will listen to her, understand how she feels and most of us will give her sound advice and not call her names
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If You Could & Still Attended, What Suggestions Would You Give The Elders?
by minimus inwhat would like to tell the elders that you knew?.
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Luo bou to
Waste of breath They wouldn't listen
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Passover/Memorial
by Inkie inisn't it interesting that the memorial (which is pretty much a passover event) is not done in one's private home just as the passover was/is done in private homes among ancient and modern israel.
israel didn't gather together in some huge synagogue or even at the temple--they gathered in private homes.
maybe jesus' gathering his disciples together in the upper chamber could be used by the society as the reason they too gather in kingdom halls and various auditoriums as they do.
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Luo bou to
After I was DF I was there with my family The Elders made a point of not letting me handle the emblems They took it off my 11year old son beside me and handed it to my wife who was also sitting next to me. My son said "It really is a passover Dad, it passed right over you." Love that boy Now 26 and a phsychologist.